Traditionally, very few people watch VP debates and that’s a shame because last night was a primer on debating. I didn’t get to watch it live, but I did review clips and the transcript this morning. Good ole Uncle Joe took little Pauly out to the wood shed and gave him the ass whuppin of his life. I’m almost feeling euphoric, except for the fact that the only poeple who watched were probably people who had already made up their minds.

Many rightwing pundits are howling about how “rude” Biden was. How was his aggression any different than Romney’s in the first debate? Seriously, how was Biden’s aggression worse than Romney’s? If anything Biden’s was better because he not only challenged the other person he did so with actual facts. So cowboy up you whinging conservatives….sometimes you get as good as you give. Karma’s a bitch, get over it.

Now let’s just ignore the style of the debate and look at the facts shall we? Here’s a quick run-down of Paul Ryan’s lie and contradition fest and the real answers:

  • Lie: Pres’ tax plan to raise taxes on high income businesses would raise taxes on 53% of small businesses

    Truth: Ryan is including multi-million dollar businesses such as hedgefunds in his definition of small-business. A REAL small business is defined by not only the number of employees but also the income and in what industry. According to Ryan a $600-million-a-year hedge fund would indeed qualify–that’s humongous, nothing small about it

  • Lie: the rise in the jobless rate in Biden’s hometown was “how it’s going all around America.”

    Truth: Nationally the rate has gone down to what it was when Obama took office and in Ryan’s own hometown it’s actually 4 points lower than it was when Obama was elected.

  • Lie: the Obama administration spent stimulus money on “electric cars in Finland.”

    Truth: The cars were assembled in Finland but all the money that was spent by the U.S. government was spent domestically, not a single penny went to Finland

  • Lie: quoted a Medicare Official as saying, one out of six hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business” as a result of the Affordable Care Act

    Truth: Official said they could become “unprofitable” and they should be monitored to avoid that, could is not will, unprofitable does not mean going out of business, and monitoring shows that the government would work to see that they didn’t go out of business

  • Lie: the ACA contains “taxpayer funding” of abortion

    Truth: this is a theme for the GOP. No US tax payer money can fund abortions due to the Hyde Amendment. The ACA says that funding for abortion would only be provided in cases of rape or incest or to save the mother’s life.

  • Lie: cost-saving panel created by the Affordable Care Act, “not one of them even has to have medical training.”

    Truth: The ACA requires that the board have both doctors and other health care professionals

  • Lie: premiums have gone up $3,000

    Truth: no they haven’t,

  • Lie: 7.4 million seniors are going to lose Medicare

    Truth: they might lose their Medicate Advantage plans but they will still be covered by Medicare and the Donut Hole is closed, along with other ACA provisions, seniors will be better off. This is classic lying technique where the debater focuses on a tiny part of a policy that could be a negative, particularly if the rest of the policy is not described.

  • Lie: blamed the President for not adopting Simpson Bowles

    Truth: Ryan was actually part of the Simpson Bowles commission, then afterward when Congress voted on adopting their proposal voted against it. So Ryan is actually one of the ones who killed the Simpson Bowles Commission recommendations. The President had nothing to do with that.

  • Contradiction: “We can’t keep spending and borrowing like this” said Ryan. Well WE didn’t create this debt, YOU did. Ryan voted to put two wars on a credit card, to put a prescription drug benefit on the credit card, and gave a trillion- dollar tax cut for the very wealthy. These costs didn’t even begin to get accounted for until Pres. Obama did the responsible thing and put them on our books so they could get paid for. Funny how Ryan wasn’t so concerned about creating the debt when a Republican was in the White House. Now it’s a crisis? It was a crisis then that the GOP purposely put off for the next administration to deal with. Kind of a like a child blaming their brother for breaking their mom’s fine china. Eventually Mom will find out but in the meantime the brother will take some serious heat for it.
  • Contradiction: Ryan insisted that he was agains the Stimulus and that it did not and would not create jobs or help the economy and instead would only hurt it. Except that he wrote to letters to the Administration requesting stimulus funds because it will create growth and jobs. So which is it Pauly?
  • Lie: “….you can cut tax rates by 20 percent and still preserve these important preferences for middle­ class taxpayers.”

    Truth: No you can’t. It is mathematically impossible as I explained in the post-debate wrap-up between the Pres and Romney. It only works if you tax the shit out of everyone else, you know the people who can’t afford to be taxed any more, like you and me.

  • Lie: Accused the Department of Energy of engaging cronyism

    Truth: The Inspector General investigated such charges and found no evidence of “cronyism”. No charges came out of that investigation. An investigation does not mean the subject is guilty.

  • Contradiction: Similar to cronyism charge in Dept of Energy, Ryan implied that it was corporate welfare. This coming from a guy who voted to continue subsidies to oil companies that have made billions and billions in profits? This from a guy who votes to contine to farming subsidies (BTW, those farm subsidies rarely go to small farms because there aren’t that many left in the U.S. They have been driven out or absorbed by huge farm combines and corporations like Monsanto). This charge is so hypocritical it makes me physically ill.

Ryan repeated lies that Romney trotted out during the first debate such as 20 million people are projected to lose their health insurance. Just because Ryan is repeating them doesn’t make them any more true now.

And I don’t even know how to classify this one! In regards abortion and the Courts ability to make decisions on it, Ryan said: “We don’t think that unelected judges should make this decision; that people through their elected representatives in reaching a consensus in society through the democratic process should make this determination.” WTF?! Ryan has a double major in economics and political science and he basically said that the courts should not have say in a fundamentally legal issue. This country is based on the rule of law. Without it we would disintegrate faster than Ann Romney’s fake smile during a tough interview. We can’t rely on popular feeling to determine what is or is not constitutional. Congress makes the laws and the Courts make sure it is constitutional. Why should this be explained to this nincompoop?

Basically Mitt “I need a tax break so I can buy more dressage horses” Romney and Paul “I want to starve your granny” Ryan want to keep us uninformed or poorly informed…they think we’re easier to scare into voting for them when we are like that. Unfortunately, they are correct. It’s just too much. I can’t go on…breaking it all down and responding to the same lies over and over and over….no wonder the President seemed so exhausted during his first debate. Wouldn’t you if you were faced with such a storm of never ending bullshit?

Sources:

http://www.treasury.gov/about/organizational-structure/offices/Mgt/Pages/dcfo-osdbu-how-to-part1-index.aspx

http://factcheck.org/2012/10/veep-debate-violations/

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/10-best-biden-put-downs-veep-debate?page=0%2C1

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/10/12/malarkey/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/10/12/transcript-the-2012-vp-debate/

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/biden-exposes-ryans-extremism-abortion

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Comments
  1. A lot of people did watch this one, though…fifty-one million is what I heard, not too far off from the fifty-eight million watching the first presidential debate.

    It pleases me greatly to know how many people watched Unca Joe trample that little twerp.

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