One of these guys is just like the others

Posted: February 27, 2012 in Constitutional Issue, Culture War, Historical, Religion
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The separation of Church and State has been much on my mind lately because Rick Santorum, whose poll numbers seem to have been soaring lately in the race to become the GOP nominee, has been all over MSM talking about it. He said some things that Americans need to pay close attention to, very close attention to. Let me show you what I mean. Look at the following quotes below and tell me if you identify who said which quote. Your choices are: Rick Santorum, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Osama Bin Laden, Muammar Gaddafi, Pat Buchanan, and Pope Benedict XVI (currently in that office)–Answers are here.

On a Lack of Morality

1. “Measures that are taken outside religious morality, politics minus morality, economics minus morality, culture minus morality only turns the world into a hell for nations and humanity.”

2. “…Since they have zealously promoted moral relativism by sanctioning “private” moral matters such as alternative lifestyles.”

3. “In today’s wars, there are no morals.”

4. “We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as definitive and has as its highest value one’s own ego and one’s own desires…”

5. “the world is in need of change, and Marxism, liberalism, humanism…..could not solve man’s problems”

On Satan’s Influence

6. “I condemn all pressures, all satanic pressures, pressures on the government….”

7. “This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country.”

On Birth Control/Fertility Rates

8. “…. I don’t think it’s [Birth Control] a healthy thing for our country.”

9. “…without swords, without guns, without conquest—[higher fertility rates] will turn it [Europe] into a Muslim continent within a few decades.”

10. “The reason the West is dying is simple: children are no longer so desirable.”

11. “year by year birth rates are going down [in the U.S.]…[there is a] demographic winter in Europe….”

12. “[Our country] has the capacity for many children….[we want] a baby boom to almost double the country’s population”
On homosexuality

13. “…we believe this act [homosexuality] is against the human spirit and humanity.”

14. “…they [homosexual acts] undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family”

15. “…reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and usury….”

16. “[Homosexuality] is however ‘objectively disordered’ and homosexual practices are ‘sins….”

On education

17. “Our educational system has been affected by [many] years of secular thought and has raised thousands of people who hold Ph.D.s. Changing this system is not easy and we have to do it together.”

18. “Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air”

19. “We’re going to bring back God and the Bible and drive the gods of secular humanism right out of the public schools of America.”

20. “They don’t need to go to college.”

21. “Today, students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities.”

On freedom and Equality

22. “I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed.”

23. ” I would argue that the future of America hangs in the balance….”

24. “What’s left is a government that gives you rights. What’s left are no unalienable rights.”
25. “Where equality is enthroned, freedom is extinguished.”

26. “I have no problem with income inequality.”

So how did you do? Can you tell them apart? Why are they so similar? Well they all use fear and negativity to motivate people so that is the most obvious thing. The other thing is that they all have a religion behind their worldview driving everything they think and everything they do. I know I wouldn’t want any of the other individuals quoted here to be President of the U.S., so why are a certain percentage of the GOP base even considering Santorum? Here is what Santorum, and many Americans, believe:

I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state are absolute,” he told ‘This Week’ host George Stephanopoulos. “The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country…to say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes me want to throw up.

You know what makes me want to throw up? Ignorance, particularly historical ignorance. Check out this very good article in The Nation discussing why weren’t then and aren’t now a “Christian” nation, but one built upon the principle of separation of church and state to protect not only the government from religious intrusion but also to protect religion from government intrusion. I knew everything in the article already by reading biographies of and letters written by the Founding Fathers except for the bit about Tripoli. Here’s a quote:

Our Constitution makes no mention whatever of God. The omission was too obvious to have been anything but deliberate, in spite of Alexander Hamilton’s flippant responses when asked about it: According to one account, he said that the new nation was not in need of “foreign aid”; according to another, he simply said “we forgot.” But as Hamilton’s biographer Ron Chernow points out, Hamilton never forgot anything important.

Notes:

Some of the quotes begin and or end with ellipsis because the rest of the quote gives away the answer. You can look all of them up though, using the sources I have linked below. This wasn’t done to confuse anyone or make anyone look bad, it was just very hard not to give away the origin of the quote if it said “The Church” or “Islam”…Also if there is something in brackets I added it to clarify the meaning of a pronoun.

Sources:

http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2006/09/coals-hauled-to-newcastle.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/288148/more-merrier-andrew-stuttaford

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8022125/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-his-outlandish-quotes.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/302964/20120222/controversial-santorum-anti-women-gay-protestant-quotes.htm

http://www.thenation.com/article/our-godless-constitution

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-22/world/un.ahmadinejad_1_iranian-state-run-news-agency-iranian-prison-hijack/2?_s=PM:WORLD

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/21/rick-santorum-obama-christianity_n_1291645.html

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/rick-santorum-in-2008-theres-no-such-thing-as-a

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/oct/23/iran.roberttait

http://equalitymatters.org/blog/201108120010

http://equalitymatters.org/blog/201104140009

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

http://fresnobeehive.com/opinion/2006/09/those_vile_liberals_on_campus.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/15/rick-santorum-on-fox-news_n_1207478.html?ref=politics

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/15/rick-santorum-on-fox-news_n_1207478.html?ref=politics

http://www.towleroad.com/2011/01/ahmadinejad.html#ixzz1nbn16F1U

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ANSWERS

 

On a Lack of Morality

1. “Measures that are taken outside religious morality, politics minus morality, economics minus morality, culture minus morality only turns the world into a hell for nations and humanity.”  ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)

2. “…Since they have zealously promoted moral relativism by sanctioning “private” moral matters such as alternative lifestyles.” (Rick Santorum)

3. “In today’s wars, there are no morals.” (Osama Bin Laden)

4. “We are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as definitive and has as its highest value one’s own ego and one’s own desires…” (Pope)

5. “the world is in need of change, and Marxism, liberalism, humanism…..could not solve man’s problems” ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)

On Satan’s Influence

6. “I condemn all pressures, all satanic pressures, pressures on the government….” (Ahmenijad)

7. “This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country.” (Rick Santorum)

On Birth Control/Fertility Rates

8. “…. I don’t think it’s [Birth Control] a healthy thing for our country.” (Rick Santorum)

9. “…without swords, without guns, without conquest—[higher fertility rates] will turn it [Europe] into a Muslim continent within a few decades.” (Mahmoud Gaddafi)

10. “The reason the West is dying is simple: children are no longer so desirable.” (Pat Buchanan)

11. “year by year birth rates are going down [in the U.S.]…[there is a] demographic winter in Europe….” (Rick Santorum)

12. “[Our country] has the capacity for many children….” ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)

On homosexuality

13. “…we believe this act [homosexuality] is against the human spirit and humanity.” ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)

14. “…they [homosexual acts] undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family” (Rick Santorum)

15. “…reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and usury….” (Osama Bin Laden)

16. “[Homosexulaity] is however ‘objectively disordered’ and homosexual practices are ‘sins….” (Pope)

On education

17. “Our educational system has been affected by 150 years of secular thought and has raised thousands of people who hold Ph.D.s. Changing this system is not easy and we have to do it together.” ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)

18. “Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air (Rick Santorum)

19. “We’re going to bring back God and the Bible and drive the gods of secular humanism right out of the public schools of America.” (Pat Buchanan)

20. “They don’t need to go to college.” (Rick Santorum)

21. “Today, students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities.” ( Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)

On freedom and Equality

22. “I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed.” (Osama Bin Laden)

23. ” I would argue that the future of America hangs in the balance….” (Rick Santorum)

24. “What’s left is a government that gives you rights. What’s left are no unalienable rights.” (Rick Santorum)

25. “Where equality is enthroned, freedom is extinguished.” (Pat Buchanan)

26. “I have no problem with income inequality.” (Rick Santorum)

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Comments
  1. Reblogged this on heretherebespiders and commented:
    I don’t reblog often. This is worth it.

  2. Reblogged. I feel a bit ill, though.

  3. alopecia says:

    Great minds think alike.

    So do authoritarians.

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